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hymnia
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Joie
Tue, Nov. 25th, 2008 04:19 pm
Avatar Book 1, Disc 5 – spoiler-friendly reaction post

This post is for commentary with SPOILERS for episodes beyond Book 1, Disc 5.


Chapter 17: The Northern Air Temple

"Even though Teo's not an airbender, he really does have the spirit of one." This episode brings to mind the problem of the lack of airbenders in the world, and how tempting it is to imagine ways that airbending might be revived. I've heard that the creators have sort of nixed this idea by joking how that would require them to change the name of the series or something. But that's just silly. Of course, it makes sense that Aang never found any airbenders that survived the Fire Nation's genocidal campaign, but it doesn't stand to reason that there will be no more airbenders in the future. After all, in Star Wars, Yoda told Luke that after his death "the last of the Jedi will you be." It would have been preposterous to assume Yoda meant there would be no more Jedi again, EVAR! So I’m in favor of proposing ways for the airbenders to return. One way I've seen suggested in some comment thread somewhere is that Aang might use spirit-bending to grant the ability to bend air to someone, or maybe to a few someones. I like that one, although I don't think it's something Aang would take lightly, if he chose to do that (assuming he's even able to do that).


Chapter 18: The Waterbending Master

At Uncle Iroh's music night, I spy two of the crew members dancing. *gasp* Those rebels.

I have to say, I think in this episode it's quite clear that Iroh is rooting for Zuko to capture Aang.


Chapter 20: The Siege of the North, Part 2

We have an interesting conversation between Zhao and Iroh in this episode. We learn that Iroh has been to the spirit world. We also learn that Zhao has been to a secret underground library in the Earth Kingdom.

The Avatar tried to kill Koh 800-900 years ago? Avatar Kuruk couldn't have lived that long ago, could he? Roku died 112 years before. Let's say he was 100 when he died, that would take us back 212 years. Avatar Kyoshi lived an unusually long life, 200-300 years, I think. That would take us back about 512 years. Let's say Kuruk died at 200, so his marriage might have been 180 years before that. That gets us back 692 years. Still not very close to 800. Sounds like someone besides JKR is bad at maths.

I wanted Koh's promise that he would meet Aang again to be realized in the series, because he makes an interesting villain. I discovered today that he did make an appearance in an online animated graphic novel called "Escape from the Spirit World" at the Nickelodeon website.

I remember the first time I saw this, Yue's death made me think this series would be like HP—that the creators would not shy away from being brutal about character deaths. But I was, maybe not exactly disappointed, but a bit surprised that in the end, it wasn't really as brutal as HP. There were only two painful character deaths, Yue and Jet (unless there's someone I'm forgetting?), and no major deaths in the series finale, even among villains.

Joie

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orcapotter
orcapotter
Orca キンバリー
Wed, Nov. 26th, 2008 02:13 am (UTC)

You missed Chapter 19! ~_^

I also agree that somehow, more airbenders will return. It makes sense that if Aang can take powers away, he can give them, too. So why not grant airbending to the Northern Air Temple? The series is over, after all, though we know they'll continue. It's perfectly reasonable to have a "Return of the Airbenders" story. Afterall, I never was too impressed by the fact that Aang was the last one, anyway - nor did a great majority of people he met. It was more significant that he was the Avatar.


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hymnia
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Joie
Wed, Nov. 26th, 2008 02:54 am (UTC)

:D Chapter 19 just didn't bring out the spoilerdragons, for some reason.


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lilac_bearry
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Lilac
Wed, Nov. 26th, 2008 03:00 am (UTC)

And couldn't Aang's children be air-benders? Like, when he's actually old enough to have kids, in the future?

I need some Avatar avatars. :D


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hymnia
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Joie
Wed, Nov. 26th, 2008 05:21 am (UTC)

Yes, I do expect he'll have some kids with the ability. I just would hate for that to be the *only* way to repopulate the airbenders, for Katara's sake.

avatar_icons is where I found all my Avatar avatars. :D


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peachespig
peachespig
peachespig
Thu, Nov. 27th, 2008 04:33 pm (UTC)

Yeah, I'd given a lot of thought to this whole issue of the return of the airbenders. Aang and Katara having children is the obvious one, there is the idea that orcapotter stated that Aang could create airbenders, and I also kind of liked the idea that the world would just sense that it was out of balance, and airbenders would start being born to the non-air nomad population. It's a neat idea for a future story, all these kids born in diverse circumstances discovering that they can control the air, and making their way through the world and discovering each other and the air temples....

But as you say, Bryke kind of nixed this idea, and to be honest, I think they are nuts. They had an almost condescending answer about how Aang was the last airbender, last, and that was it. But I am completely confused how the balance of the world can be restored (which was the whole point) if there are no airbenders, and how the future Avatar cycle can continue if there are no airbenders. To me, no future airbenders means Aang didn't really win after all. It's hard for be to believe they haven't thought about these things, but their flip answer made it seem like they hadn't or didn't care. To be honest, these guys make a great show, but I don't find their interview personas very satisfying. Maybe the answer about the airbenders was just a joke, and they actually are hoping to address it in a future spin-off along with Ursa's fate? Alas, that's probably just blind optimism.

The only other characters I can think of besides Yue and Jet who die are villains, Zhao and Combustion Man. You heard Bryke saying how they were censored over showing or even explicitly referring to Jet's death? After that it seems it was pretty mandatory that all the kid characters live.

Koh was indeed awesome, and I missed the spirit world which played a much bigger role in the first season. (I guess the lion turtle was probably, if not actaully a spirit world being, at least in touch with the spirit world.) Koh was I think the only genuinely scary thing in the show. I would certainly love to see more of that if there were more Avatar.

Edited at 2008-11-27 04:33 pm (UTC)


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hymnia
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Joie
Fri, Nov. 28th, 2008 04:23 pm (UTC)

To be honest, these guys make a great show, but I don't find their interview personas very satisfying.

I know the feeling! I think JKR spoiled me as far as that goes--almost all her interview quotes and footage were so right on. But in other fandoms I've been in, that hasn't always been the case.

You heard Bryke saying how they were censored over showing or even explicitly referring to Jet's death?

No, I hadn't heard that. That's so lame. Especially after Yue's death was pretty explicit. I mean, yeah, she turned into the moon, but it seemed pretty clear to me that she died first. The way Jet's death was treated in the show was bizarre and sort of disturbing. It's clear that they were trying to convey something tragic was taking place, but the way no one really mourned for him afterward just seemed cold. I can't imagine it was any comfort to young children watching the show to treat it that way.


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