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Furuba spoilers - A Sorta Fairytale
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hymnia
hymnia
Joie
Wed, Oct. 4th, 2006 11:35 pm
Furuba spoilers

This will be my first Fruits Basket new chapter reaction post. And just in time, too, since there aren't that many new chapters left.

I started following FB spoilers with chapter 121, which ended with a big cliffhanger. Ever since then, every chapter that I have read spoilers for has made me increasingly happy. First, Tohru didn't die from her injuries (and Kureno was okay, too). Then, various long-standing issues got pulled out and examined and dealt with. The curse was broken. Relationships were resolved, some of them in fits of romantic ecstasy. It's all good stuff. Now there are just a handful of chapters left, and it seems their purpose is to give a sort of epilogue--a little glimpse into what the futures of the characters hold now that all these things have come to pass.

As of right now, I haven't seen scans for chapter 134, nor have I found any kind of substantial summary. All I have to go on is a "highlights" sort of summary from a French website that I read via babelfish. So maybe...I shouldn't be too quick to judge. On the other hand, this is not the first chapter for which the first spoilers that I found came in similarly garbled fashion, and yet it is the first which has made me feel...bleh.

Here's what I have gleaned so far:

1. Yuki and Manabe both either fail or miss (can't tell which from the French) their University entrance exams.
2. Yuki says he wants to live somewhere on his own, away from his family.
3. Ayame and Mine are...looking for a place to live together? This is kind of unclear, b/c the people on the French board seem to be arguing about whether or not they already live together.
4. Kyo tells Tohru he wants to leave the city after he finishes school.
5. Kyo asks Tohru to come with him. I can't tell for sure, but the way people on the French board are reacting, it looks like he's asking her to live with him.

My reactions:
1. Yuki not-passing the entrance exam is kind of strange and unexpected, and a lot of people on SubaFuruba are freaked out by it, but...okay, this one doesn't bother me that much. It's bizarre, but I could buy it.

2. This is okay, and what I expected from Yuki. A lot ot people at SF seem to be taking it as him distancing himself from Machi as well as his family, but I think that's a misunderstanding.

3. Apart from the confusion about whether they alredy live together and are, perhaps, either making their relationship public, or looking for a new home, or something like that, or if they really are moving in together for the first time, there's no problem here. A fuller summary will probably clear this up.

Now for the two that are freaking me out.

4. NO. This makes no sense. For Yuki, yes. For Kureno, yes. For a lot of the others, maybe. But not for Kyo, and definitely not for Tohru. Okay, I had to go and search for a post I made on randomfandom a while ago to explain myself:

Tohru is on her own journey, and her journey is taking her deeper into the Sohma family, making her, in a way, a part of the family Yuki is trying to escape. Often in stories characters who are orphans have a character arc that involves becoming part of a family, and I think that is the case for Tohru. An important part of her journey is to learn about receiving love, (giving it happens, too, as I mentioned in the other thread, but receiving it is what she has trouble with). So it is necessary for her to move further in to the family circle—to really, in a way, become one of them (and, I think, she probably will literally become one of them by marriage, though the readers may or may not get to actually see that—depends on whether or not we get some kind of epilogue that takes place a little ways down the road from the current time line). So it makes sense that Tohru would have to have a romance with another character whose arc involves moving further in as well, as Kyo’s does, rather than further out, as Yuki’s does. Kyo and Tohru grow by finding love with each other as they also gain acceptance from the Sohma family. Yuki grows by tearing away his old facades, including those imposed by his family, and connecting to outsiders like Manabe and Machi. Hence, it makes more sense for him to fall in love with Machi, who is well outside of the Sohma family, as well as outside of the mainstream high school crowd that placed Yuki on a pedestal.

I just don't see Kyo and Tohru moving far away from the family. If that's the case, it feels to me like the story is over-emphasizing this "moving to the country" business as a means of escape from a painful past. I think it makes sense for some characters, but it shouldn't be what happens to all of them, and it esecially doesn't make sense for these two. Tohru...she needs to be near the other Sohmas, I think. I love Kyoru, but I don't believe they will find abolutetly all their needs met in being only with each other. They need other people, both of them. I do not, NOT want them to move away.

5. Okay, again, what works for some characters does NOT work for others. *sigh* Don't give in to this post-modern anti-marriage nonsense, Takaya-sensei! I know that people like me who believe that marriage should come first are a dying breed, and I accept that many of my favorite fictional couples that I like to swoon over would be likely to live together without getting married, but NOT TOHRU AND KYO. It just doesn't suit their characters at all! They are both innocent, sexually reserved characters, and they both seem to be the type to have old-fashioned values (Tohru with her overly polite speech, Kyo with his chivalrious behavior). I just...really think they would see marriage and "living together" as going hand in hand. (I know they already live together in a technical sense, but you know what I mean).

At this point, I find myself hoping that Tohru says "NO" to Kyo.

But of course...there could easily be things I'm misunderstanding and nuances I'm missing. It's also possible that Takaya-sensei could convince me to see things differently on certain points. So I'm not passing final judgement. I'm just...feeling nervous about this chapter, desperately wishing we had more info, and needing to vent a bit.

Joie

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roostah
roostah
cynical romantic
Thu, Oct. 5th, 2006 06:12 am (UTC)

(Hey, found this through your reply to umadoshi. Hope you don't mind if I comment?)

My immediate response based off the spoilers was unpleasant, too. I know that Takaya's just trying to wrap up all the loose ends and push characters towards change and independence...but it makes me nostalgic for the "let's stay together always" days.

I'm really worried about Yuki and Manabe, but it seems like they're not concerned at all about failing, so maybe they know what they're doing. I'm trying not to jump to conclusions because there might be a good reason for it, and I don't think Takaya could just randomly have them fail. I don't know. I want them to be happy and it doesn't make a lot of sense to me...but que sera sera, I guess.

I'm not too keen on Tohru and Kyo living together just yet, either. I love seeing their interaction with the rest of the cast, and it would make me more than a little sad to see that all go away. And I agree, they need to be with other people as well as with each other. Even though Arisa and Saki seem to be giving them their "blessings" this chapter, I just couldn't see Tohru without them. She needs their love as much as she needs Kyo's. And the Sohmas are like her family; she needs them, too.

I'm hoping the chapter's going to be better than the spoilers make it sound, because I really want to like it. .__.


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hymnia
hymnia
Joie
Thu, Oct. 5th, 2006 03:11 pm (UTC)

(Hey, found this through your reply to umadoshi. Hope you don't mind if I comment?)

Not at all! In fact, in my desperation for more info last night, I went friends' friends surfing and I actually read your entry on the subject. I was kinda surprised to see a comment from you in my inbox this morning.

I'm really worried about Yuki and Manabe, but it seems like they're not concerned at all about failing, so maybe they know what they're doing.

Yeah. Of all the "Huh?" elements I've heard about this chapter, this seems the most likely to be okay if the context is right. Some people are saying Yuki could have failed on purpose, which I suppose is possible.

Even though Arisa and Saki seem to be giving them their "blessings" this chapter, I just couldn't see Tohru without them. She needs their love as much as she needs Kyo's. And the Sohmas are like her family; she needs them, too.

I really hope the chapter makes it clear that they are not trying to cut off all ties or anything. Maybe Kyo doesn't intend to go very far.


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roostah
roostah
cynical romantic
Fri, Oct. 6th, 2006 03:02 am (UTC)

Some people are saying Yuki could have failed on purpose, which I suppose is possible.

See, I just had an epiphany about this, and now it all makes sense (to me, at least). I wrote in reply to a comment in my journal:

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I suspect that he and Manabe really did fail on purpose. It would make sense if, say, Yuki wanted to go to a far-away college at first, but then he deliberately bombed the entrance exam there after realizing he wanted to stay behind to be with Machi. It would certainly explain why he wasn't concerned by his results at all. And of course Manabe would follow suit and everything.

Just a theory to toss around, anyway.


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sari_15
sari_15
sari_15
Thu, Oct. 5th, 2006 11:13 am (UTC)

Yeah, I've been putting off trying to think too much about the new chapter until I at least see the scans. Having the summary translated from English to French and back again (by someone who can barely read French so I use bablefish for the things I want to make sure of) But my thoughts are that...it ended fairly abruptly.

I don't think Kyou asked her to 'live' with him...I think it was 'live with' him. In his awkward and round about way--I think he's asking her to marry him. Like you, I can't see these two living together--alone--without a marriage license in the deal. It's just not--them. Any other pairing in the series I have no problems with, Yuki/Machi, Haru/Rin, even Shigure/Akito *for that pair I would RATHER them do this*

I'm just gonna wait for the scans to see how I feel...


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hymnia
hymnia
Joie
Thu, Oct. 5th, 2006 03:18 pm (UTC)

In his awkward and round about way--I think he's asking her to marry him.

That could be the case, and I hope it is.

Like you, I can't see these two living together--alone--without a marriage license in the deal. It's just not--them. Any other pairing in the series I have no problems with, Yuki/Machi, Haru/Rin, even Shigure/Akito

Yes! I really don't think this is just my own coservative bias coming out, because I would be fine with it being any other couple, too. It's just Tohru and Kyo...I really don't think they'd be happy with not getting married first. Both are so shy about sexuality, I think they'd only be comfortable sharing a home of their own--and a bed--with the feeling of legitimacy that marriage would provide.


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attaining
attaining
Kat
Sat, Oct. 7th, 2006 11:13 pm (UTC)

I'm having mixed reactions toward ch 134, which is why I am holding back most comments until I've seen a translation.

I can buy Yuki bombing on purpose (as roostah pointed out to me, it's very similar to the omake in vol 1. where Yuki asks Kyo why he didn't just fail the entrance exam on purpose to get out of going to school). Doing this to stay close to Machi and Manabe makes sense, and Yuki's grown up a lot. He doesn't really feel the need to run far, far away from Sohmaland anymore. (Note his reaction in 132, where he comments that he's glad everyone's still feeling comfortable around each other without the curse.)

My biggest WTF is coming from the 'Kyo asks Tohru to live with him' thing. I need to see context for me to even begin to wrap my head around this. While I honestly don't want to see Kyoru get married before the series ends, I agree that it doesn't make sense for the two to literally live together alone without marriage. Not only are both very old fashioned, Kyo is very adamant about following perceived societal rules. It wouldn't occur to him that he could break a social norm like marriage. (For example, think of him telling Haru that he can't fight an amateur, or that they can't eat lunch in front of a grave, or not failing the entrance exam to high school, or studying for tests and completing schoolwork even though he thought he'd be confined after graduation. He often makes chiding comments about "indecent" and "lewd" behavior, too. IMO, Kyo's reaction to Momiji in a girl's uniform was because Momiji broke a social norm, not because Kyo was personally affronted. He even admits Momiji looks good. :x) For a character who seems so rebellious, he's certainly submissive about following the rules others set for him. Kyo really wants to live "normally," and I believe that word is deliberate. I have thoughts on why, but I'm already way off track.

So, yes, I'm confused by that idea as well. I can take his meaning to be a roundabout marriage proposal, as sari_15 suggested. It's just something I really need clarification to say anything other than "...Um, WTF?"


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hymnia
hymnia
Joie
Sun, Oct. 8th, 2006 12:20 am (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. A thousand times yes on everything you said about Kyo. I'd like to hear the rest of your thoughts on that, actually. Let me know if you decide to post them somewhere.


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